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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:06 am 
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Please post a pic of your cans.... the Duplicolor, I mean.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 8:30 am 
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Will do at lunch. Ish...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 12:11 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:21 pm 
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Well, your clear is lacquer - as stated.
Blue metallic - might be a clue on the back, something about toluene, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:57 pm 
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The clear coat has it listed. The paint lists nothing.


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Make sure the clear is compatible with the color. I pulled up several data sheets at their website. Acetone and two other solvents on their acrylic lacquer, but the material was not disclosed. If the color is enamel, I'd bet the clear is not compatible. Also, nitro lacquer is not compatible with acrylic lacquer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:08 pm 
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dzsmith wrote:
Make sure the clear is compatible with the color. I pulled up several data sheets at their website. Acetone and two other solvents on their acrylic lacquer, but the acrylic material was not disclosed. If the color is enamel, I'd bet the clear is not compatible. Also, nitro lacquer is not compatible with acrylic lacquer.

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I will do a test tonight. I dont have any spare wood however. Do you think cardboard would work for a test?


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Yup. Cardboard will work.

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Sorry, I forgot to mention it looks great!
Love the metallic color!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:49 pm 
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Thanks! Can't wait to see all the chrome on it. Updates to come.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:02 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:06 am 
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Here we are this morning after a thick spray of the clear coat. It looks ok. The texture seems normal.

Are there specific things I should be looking for with regard to compatibility between the base and the clear?

Seems ok...


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Well, your compatibility test seems OK at first glance.
When your apply your clear, if you see crazing or cracking of the base color - stop immediately.
Then we'll figure out the next step.

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Have begun the clear coating. No ill effects as of yet.


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Looking fine as frog fur.

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If your base and clear react bad with each other, you will know pretty quick (before it dries) when it turns to cottage cheese in under 10 minutes flat. It used to be cut and dry, paint cans said lacquer or enamel right on the front, and you never mixed the two (though you could use enamel over the top of lacquer). For whatever reason, manufactures have gotten sketchy on it these days.

Finding lacquer primer in a rattle can is impossible now, for what its worth, Rustolium automotive primer will take lacquer over the top even though you cant get good info on it.

Your paint looks good!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:11 pm 
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Thanks! Two cans of clear applied. Need to figure something out for the head stock, and get one more can of clear for the neck. Then. Curing...Image

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